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PROSTOCKTOM
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« on: December 30, 2007, 09:33:12 PM »

I love a 64 65 Olds bodies, who's got a cool A body swap out there ?

Tom
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caddycarlo
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« Reply #1 on: December 31, 2007, 08:54:23 AM »

though not an Olds the caddycarlo is a a-body ....... as a side note the monte carlo is a long frame a-body at 116 inch wheelbase which was used on wagons and 4 doors instead of the 112 inch wheelbase that most two door cars used and the extra was mostly added to the hood of the monte .... in doing so it has more swap room then most a-body cars ......
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dave brode
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Best of 11.66, 113.96, 1.59 sixty


« Reply #2 on: December 31, 2007, 10:19:23 AM »

Tom,

The early A bodies' [esp 64-67] engine bay is pretty cramped. Iirc, there's an article somewhere showing a caddy in a 66 or 67 Skylark, but I don't remember details. I would expect clearance issues at the upper control arms. Maybe the steering shaft.

Dave


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3960 lb '71 C-10. 11.7-1 CR 514". PEP I beam rods floating MTS 18cc dish Probes, Elgin solid cam, home ported heads, MTS 2.19/1.84", Potter/Probe shaft rockers, edel 2115, 4781 850. Switch-pitch TH400, 12" 1800/3200 Tri-Shield convertor, 4.30 gears. Best so far of 11.66, 114.8 mph and 1.59 sixty
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« Reply #3 on: December 31, 2007, 10:24:32 AM »

Here's one for ya:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=320199286595&ssPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=011
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3960 lb '71 C-10. 11.7-1 CR 514". PEP I beam rods floating MTS 18cc dish Probes, Elgin solid cam, home ported heads, MTS 2.19/1.84", Potter/Probe shaft rockers, edel 2115, 4781 850. Switch-pitch TH400, 12" 1800/3200 Tri-Shield convertor, 4.30 gears. Best so far of 11.66, 114.8 mph and 1.59 sixty
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« Reply #4 on: January 08, 2008, 03:27:12 PM »

I have a 64 cheveel 2 dr hardtop with a built 500 cad.  Very tight fit.  Car is mini tubbed ect.
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~JM~
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« Reply #5 on: January 08, 2008, 04:24:54 PM »

I have a 64 cheveel 2 dr hardtop with a built 500 cad.  Very tight fit.  Car is mini tubbed ect.
PICS!

PICS!

PICS!

We want pics!

Welcome to the site Beadblaster.

If by chance you haven't figured it out by now...   We like to look at pictures. Grin
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PS. You don't have enough cam. Grin

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« Reply #6 on: April 10, 2008, 09:43:04 PM »

my first post here. I've got a '66 Chevelle 300 Delux in need of an engine. I was going to put an LSx small block Chevy in it, but, it's been done. I'd like to get 25 MPG out of it and to help make that happen I've got a TKO 500 to put behind the engine, and a 9" for the rear. Don't really want a drag racer, I'd like to drive the "back way to Santa Fe" and have fun with it. (Caddycarlo know's what I'm talking about). Anyway, I'm planing on purchasing an engine sometime this summer, and while I wait on that i'll get the chassis and drivetrain together. I'll have lots of questions............
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« Reply #7 on: April 10, 2008, 10:17:10 PM »

Classic Gary welcome to the board.

It sounds to me, like you must be Enchanted, or at least from the land of. Beautiful country out that way.

I have to ask you... How important is that 25mpg?

If you are dead set on that type of mileage numbers & trust me there is nothing wrong with that goal, especially these days. You may want to start looking at that LS again. I don't know if it's reasonable to expect that type of performance from a 500 or even the little brother 425.

It might be possible but I don't recall ever hearing anyone talking about numbers like that. If you figure it out. Please let me know how. Wink

Here are a couple pics of how large the cylinders are.

Do you have any pics of your car? We like pics. Grin

Looking forward to hearing from you.
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« Reply #8 on: April 11, 2008, 06:32:35 AM »

if i get 25MPG will i be enchanted ?  Grin  i've heard of Caddy's doing 20-22 MPG. Chevelle will be LOTS lighter and the OD should help. And if push comes to shove Mega Squirt ? I'm not afraid of experimenting. You guys know way more than I, so i'll be asking questions. I do know caddycarlo and I've got another friend with a 500 (it's a CadCo. engine) in a '69 firechicken w/a B&W T10/OD from a Vette, their experience will help. If gas prices don't kill my job, the car should be running by maybe Oct. this year. (dropped/tall spindles, tubular control arms, 12" FDB, 11" RDB, cowl hood, 9", adjustable rear control arms, ect.) Should be a FUN car. Cheesy
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Vern
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« Reply #9 on: May 16, 2008, 03:44:17 PM »

I have gotten 17hwy and performance with mine.  I believe if I wanted to sacrafice some gear and cam and dial it in a bit I could get 20.  But that is still a long way from 25.  Different set up for sure but still overdrive, a lock up converter, a q-jet and a somewhat reasonable cam. I figured at any rate it keeps the rpm down and most of the stuff that will run with mine (naturally aspirated) is buzzin down the highway and getting about 9mpg, so while it may not be thrifty it is somewhat affordable to drive. At least relatively speaking.     
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87 Olds 442, 509 Cad, 800 Q-jet, Alum intake, Street portd heads, 230@50 528lift cam, Headers, 200-4r 2800 stall lock-up convertr, Electric fans & intank fuel pump, AC, 17mpg hwy

87 Buick GN, TE-60 turbo, stretch intercoolr, 42.5lb injector, 3" downpipe, Meth/water injection~Both 2 run 11.8ish113
beadblasterr
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« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2008, 02:35:54 PM »

Here are some pictures of my 64 chevelle with a 509 cadillac.  Car is minitubbed ect.


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beadblasterr
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« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2008, 02:39:11 PM »

Here is one of the engine.  I will try and post some better pictures.


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beadblasterr
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« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2008, 03:36:07 PM »

Here are a couple of properly sized photos of my 64 chevelle.


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~JM~
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« Reply #13 on: May 23, 2008, 09:46:07 AM »

Hey Beadblaster,

That's a great looking car & engine compartment! Please tell us more.

I've always been a fan of a bead blast finish on aluminum & stainless steel parts.

I have a stainless steel revolver that was polished & shiny from the factory.

When I had it tuned, I also had it bead blasted but left all the screws & action components left shiny. Really eliminated the glare & gave it a more serious appearance.
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beadblasterr
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« Reply #14 on: May 23, 2008, 12:03:10 PM »

The engine is a 40 over 500 with keith black pistons and forged rods,76cc heads with potters stainless valves,mild port work and potters roller rockers as well as one of his cams,mts ss springs,mts fabricated oil pan,094 10,10 crank,flowkooler pump,performer intake,870 street avenger carb,sanderson headers cad 600 heavily modified to fit,remote system one filter,accel distributor,petronix rev limiter, head and main studs,be cool radiator,I ended up glass beading and coating most of the aluminum parts. Tranny is a built turbo 400 with a 2200 custom built 9.5" art carr torque convertor  The car is mini tubbed with 17/11 Vintage Wheel Works V45  rims in the back and 315/35/17 tires. Front is V45 17/8 with 245/45/17 rims.  I also glass beaded the rim centers.  The interior is red leather,seats are cut down 200 trans am seats .  I cut them down to make them into low backs as I am trying to make the car look stock.  Gauges are TPI fitted into a new stock dash bezel. The car is a full frame of with every nut and bolt being replaced with stainless.  I have also put the scoops from a 1966 SS chevelle on the hood.  Because I wanted to keep the car body stock I have redone all the original moulding.  I think this will set the car apart from alot of the other 64/65 chevelles because everbody removes the center body molding.  All in all it is a very cool car and should be a blast to drive.
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